tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post5972679949490756150..comments2024-03-26T16:31:13.865-07:00Comments on Mark Lawrence: How many fucks were given?Mark Lawrencehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16877925828353073272noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-16382043007025957002020-03-26T14:26:59.578-07:002020-03-26T14:26:59.578-07:00This was so entertaining. I'm going to look ou...This was so entertaining. I'm going to look out for your books. I stumbled upon this post after I ran a find-replace for "What the fuck?" and changed it to "What the fuck!" in the final edit of my book. I lean toward the idea that the expression is more interjection than question, but I digress. This exercise led to checking how many fucks were given in my book (to borrow your expression here) and I discovered 121 fucks in 137K words. To me that seems normal enough, all things considered.<br />I think society makes us do many things we don't understand. You say curse words are bad enough times and many of us will just adopt the mantra. I however have not even come close to agreeing that "fuck" is a curse!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01404442285414404610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-77367090818742709062017-08-26T10:11:19.212-07:002017-08-26T10:11:19.212-07:00Well that's a bit of a cuntyballs and no mista...Well that's a bit of a cuntyballs and no mistake Mr Frodo.<br /><br />LotR goes GrimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-69471171915515051832017-08-26T07:20:46.698-07:002017-08-26T07:20:46.698-07:00i came here only to say: 37? time to up your game....i came here only to say: 37? time to up your game... http://fantasy-faction.com/2016/the-sacred-and-profane-in-fantasy-writing-who-gives-a-f___lucashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08468525400674603085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-42134090047619459872016-09-18T08:32:09.901-07:002016-09-18T08:32:09.901-07:00In what world do posh gits not swear?In what world do posh gits not swear?OutEasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16501270182792584640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-34384007324054533082016-09-18T06:10:13.784-07:002016-09-18T06:10:13.784-07:00""I saw one review of Prince of Thorns w...""I saw one review of Prince of Thorns where the reader loved the book but lamented the bad language. There was, he said, a 'fuck' every other paragraph."""<br /><br />Says a lot more about the so-called "reviewer" than it says about your books.<br /><br />... for starters (s)he sounds like a right cucking funt to resort to gross exaggeration in an attempt to make a point.<br /><br />¬_¬Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-76915136368616551142016-03-07T10:28:50.791-08:002016-03-07T10:28:50.791-08:00My dad was in the US Army, and he said that 'f...My dad was in the US Army, and he said that 'fuck' was used as all parts of speech, and even to make new words and parts of speech. It was the one word that you could not live without.charlvilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356939493914171927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-15345237562586313102016-03-07T09:14:27.756-08:002016-03-07T09:14:27.756-08:00I'm all for realism in books, movies, etc. but...I'm all for realism in books, movies, etc. but sometimes the use of that word is just too freckin' much! :-) <br /><br />Mark, I'm a prude, but this blog gave me a good laugh.Bev's Bookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12820156807463398085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-12062774966893721172015-05-26T18:20:00.443-07:002015-05-26T18:20:00.443-07:00Whoever is complaining about your books knows noth...Whoever is complaining about your books knows nothing about excess. They should see In Bruges with Colin Farrell (notorious in the past for his use of the word) where according to imdb.com the word 'fuck' and its derivatives are said 126 times in the 107-minute film, an average of 1.18 'fucks' per minute. It doesn't take long to get absurdly funny. There's even a special feature on the DVD - a collection of all 126 uses in one short.<br />I would find it strange if your characters did NOT use profanity. Though I have no direct experience, it seems appropriate for murders and thieves to talk like this. The dialogue would seem stilted without it...as much so as if they all used perfect English grammar all the time. <br />The use of alternative curses can sometimes work, but often just sticks out and sounds silly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-24608378993294415392015-05-26T11:06:53.967-07:002015-05-26T11:06:53.967-07:00Sure I'll comment on an old post, I have no sh...Sure I'll comment on an old post, I have no shame. ;-)<br /><br />I've largely avoided our more useful curse words in my work, became I feel the ones we use today have sort of evolved over time, from acronyms or other sources.<br /><br />So I've done my best to do the same thing, using 'regular' words that over time have developed vulgar connotations. Jury is still out regarding whether it works.<br /><br />FWIW, I follow the Billy Connolly method in my own speech, although I can tune it way down when needed.<br /><br />And my characters do use privies, when the need strikes them. In fact, better to make use of one when it's at hand rather than wait, and use one's hand ...<br /><br />I'll get my coat.Gru'udhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07668910553297129209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-60917096083977179742015-03-04T08:12:27.540-08:002015-03-04T08:12:27.540-08:00Interesting topic. I have a theory
Violence - My k...Interesting topic. I have a theory<br />Violence - My kids have made it to nine without being involved in any significant act of violence and I have every expectation that will live their whole lives without encountering any murder or assault.<br />Sex - Not yet, but its going to happen and there is a significant chance that it will happen in circumstances that I would disapprove of.<br />Inappropriate language - (including but not limited to profanity) - this has been a struggle since they started talking, I correct them constantly.<br /><br />So the things that come up more, that I think about more is stuff that I notice more in books and media<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-48769367201418469742015-03-03T11:21:24.920-08:002015-03-03T11:21:24.920-08:00Welcome to the "New Age". Back in my da...Welcome to the "New Age". Back in my day the word "fuck" would not fly!!!! Now, "fuck" as wings !!! <br />So, I say "Let your fuck flag fly. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10726928286078381634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-46302196988323596052015-03-02T13:59:08.711-08:002015-03-02T13:59:08.711-08:00Thank you, Mark! I've submitted my manuscript ...Thank you, Mark! I've submitted my manuscript according to the instructions you gave, and I'll definitely spread the word!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08805424061244808455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-41176900736009509142015-03-02T12:38:13.045-08:002015-03-02T12:38:13.045-08:00Thanks Nat - I'll check the article out.
(if ...Thanks Nat - I'll check the article out.<br /><br />(if you're self-published you should put a book into this - everyone can use more coverage http://mark---lawrence.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/a-call-to-self-published-fantasy-authors.html & let the folks you help out know too!)Mark Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16877925828353073272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-76088671740093162502015-03-02T12:29:37.635-08:002015-03-02T12:29:37.635-08:00Mark, I just discovered your blog today by way of ...Mark, I just discovered your blog today by way of Reddit. I recently finished Prince of Thorns and loved it, by the way! I'm a slow reader, but I'm looking forward to reading the rest.<br /><br />This is a timely subject for me. I'm a self-published writer of some modest success, and I mentor other up-and-coming authors. If there's any question I'm asked more than any other, it's this: "Should I include profanity in my book?"<br /><br />I always answer with "You're asking the wrong person." (Well...after I say "Fuckin-A!") This usually confuses them, until I point out the *right* person is the character doing the speaking.<br /><br />I started getting the question so frequently that I decided to just break down and write an article on the subject. You can find it here: http://www.erindorpress.com/2013/08/profanity-in-genre-fiction/<br /><br />Cheers!<br />NatAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08805424061244808455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-42684294234912331512015-02-26T13:27:31.570-08:002015-02-26T13:27:31.570-08:00Okay, I don't know weather my net is being wei...Okay, I don't know weather my net is being weird or this site slow, seeing as how I can't see my previous comment. So, here I go again.<br /><br />For my degree I did an analysis of my mother language (Slovenian), for the next one I'm doing a dummy text generator. What I'm saying is that I have a lot of self-written programs that can analyze texts. So, I simply threw POT in the program and added a list of English curses that I pulled of Wikipedia.<br /><br />The program created a list of words and checked how many of those words start with the curses.<br />Example:<br />curse: fuck<br />check every word in the list that begins with cluster of letters: FUCK.<br /><br />Results:<br />the actual raw cusswords (from Wikipedia) used:<br />ass 10<br />bastard 34<br />hell 41<br />shit 16<br />goddamn 0<br />arse 0<br />fuck 8<br />bloody 19<br />damn 19<br />bitch 9<br />godsdamn 0<br />bollocks 0<br />asshole 0<br />Jesus 0<br />cunt 0<br />motherfucker 0<br /><br />words used in:<br />assembling 1<br />fucking 1<br />fuck 4<br />bastards'll 1<br />bloody 19<br />assigned 1<br />bitch 9<br />damnation 1<br />hell 32<br />shit 15<br />bastard 23<br />assassination 1<br />damn 15<br />hellfire 3<br />assured 1<br />associate 1<br />assistant 1<br />assault 1<br />bastards 10<br />fucked 2<br />hells 1<br />fuckit 1<br />assume 2<br />shitdarn 1<br />hello 5<br />assassin 1<br />damned 3<br /><br />I see you have a quite a couple of words that start with the word ASS, but no actual ASSes. Weird. Nevermind.<br /><br />This literally took me less than 2min. I feel awesome, this shit I wrote is obviously useful for other stuff than first intended. <br />So, if you wish, I can do this for the rest of your work. If you wish I can do this for some other work if you want to compare. I just need something to convert to TXT file and that is it. <br />My programer version of fanart, I guess. XDDaraknahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01670158886839618095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-76723303966841275602015-02-24T17:47:03.217-08:002015-02-24T17:47:03.217-08:00I actually think the use of swears is well-placed....I actually think the use of swears is well-placed. It seems appropriate and helps build a character's image and develops them further. Agreed on how swearing is blown out of proportion as compared to other relatively taboo topics. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-4019810155029378022015-02-23T22:08:13.961-08:002015-02-23T22:08:13.961-08:00I agree with you Mark. It's funny how the swea...I agree with you Mark. It's funny how the swearing taboo is so blown out of proportion. It's interesting to see TV shows that frequently display sex, violence, and drug use, but curb the swearing because it's considered "offensive".<br /><br />I can't help but think of that stereotypical parenting to engrave in a child that swearing is extremely offensive. While definitely a valid point to make to a child; some of that must contribute to this taboo.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15330990749228513284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-45865544725737208592015-02-23T09:15:52.699-08:002015-02-23T09:15:52.699-08:00I am a mom so I have to curb my tongue at home. I...I am a mom so I have to curb my tongue at home. I love profanity in books because it gives my filthy mouth an outlet... it sounds terrible, yeah... I know. Vivianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17107996719996980748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-70236350067258878152015-02-22T14:03:05.167-08:002015-02-22T14:03:05.167-08:00Tony Beets is the FUCKING FUCKER'S NAME! Don&#...Tony Beets is the FUCKING FUCKER'S NAME! Don't you fuckers forget it or I'll be back to make this place look like a fucknado passed through en route to greater fuckery than mortal man can imagine.<br /><br />Cause what's important here is what I decided is fucking important, see. Everything is related to my experience of things, and my tolerance for fucksticky thinking like this is fucktastically over-fucked.<br /><br />Ahem.Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07365172490610500537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-11376886651095622442015-02-22T07:41:18.420-08:002015-02-22T07:41:18.420-08:00It is a strange pride to have inspired a blog post...It is a strange pride to have inspired a blog post by an author I respect highly. I agree with what's been said about squealing at "fuck", meanwhile not (if you pardon the pun) giving a fuck about the violence, or other more important matters in whatever it is being displayed. I also use fuck (usually spanish equivalents) practically as a comma, and a lot of the people around me do.Christopherhttps://www.goodreads.com/user/show/39411004-christophernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-57167716321393975452015-02-21T04:38:47.454-08:002015-02-21T04:38:47.454-08:00And yet you're still tame compared to Abercrom...And yet you're still tame compared to Abercrombie or Morgan. Not that it's a bad thing, of course, and your books hit the spots just right, I think. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-5476243060416282822015-02-20T12:26:20.430-08:002015-02-20T12:26:20.430-08:00I thought for sure I'd never use that word in ...I thought for sure I'd never use that word in my books, since I just never use it or really hear it used much in my life...but then I wrote a book about Russian mobsters and all that had to go right out the window!Ted Crosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09022309459554237650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-74098673536146769892015-02-20T12:07:31.162-08:002015-02-20T12:07:31.162-08:00Hahahah this is funny! In my 200 pages so far not ...Hahahah this is funny! In my 200 pages so far not even a single fuck or shit. I need to really work on it or people will think I'm censoring. Then again I'm writing the nobility and their glorious deeds. Once I head into the sleazy part of town where the whorehouses line the street behind the docks, I'm sure there will be some drunken sailors cussing around. <br /><br />So does The Wheel of Osheim start in the dockside brothel or something?<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16395877246343368097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529725084811715233.post-67290071132069204012015-02-20T11:34:40.946-08:002015-02-20T11:34:40.946-08:00Fuck that's a lot!Fuck that's a lot!J P Ashmanhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00RH7F3OM/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1424460835&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40&keywords=j+p+ashmannoreply@blogger.com